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far as we know libya's anything but civilized and formed in a normal organic fashion. the ruling party that you have been in libya right now is a is amateur government it's an artificial creation of the west in the fullest get off the regime change plan so this gives you an indication of how they're governing in this country and certainly that there is no stability in libya compared to before the nato bombing and destruction of their country i don't think they're going to get much help from the u.n. saying that the united nations is the co architect of this post could off the libya half responsible for this sort of the fraud that was imposed by the u.n. resolution one nine hundred seventy three which was. starting with a no fly zone which turned into a bombing zone they've got serious problems in libya there's no legitimacy really with this post gadhafi government makes moammar gadhafi government look like a beacon of light in this shining city on the hill in comparison in syria it could be much worse because in syria we're looking at a protracted civil war now in the
far as we know libya's anything but civilized and formed in a normal organic fashion. the ruling party that you have been in libya right now is a is amateur government it's an artificial creation of the west in the fullest get off the regime change plan so this gives you an indication of how they're governing in this country and certainly that there is no stability in libya compared to before the nato bombing and destruction of their country i don't think they're going to get much help from the...
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rights groups have accused the city of cracking down on personal freedoms the spider though being a little information on what activities a bend and where and as artie's our first reports it's not even the police will be off to you if you break the rules. here in this park in london if your found drinking alcohol or growing up or or even feeding the pigeons you could inadvertently be committing a criminal or civil offense surprise will serve a lot of people the band in london map shows a whopping four hundred thirty five prohibition zones and tackling and she say sure behavior that will might have been a good policy idea in theory has local people say and it up a very bad policy in practice meaning hardline crackdowns on the soft this of misdemeanors disconcertingly many bars in london have now hired private contractors to carry out the enforcement of these fines phil morris knows all about the after his local council hired services he received an eighty pound penalty for dropping a cigarette butt and act he maintains he didn't know it was illegal he refused to pay to fruit fly. fro
rights groups have accused the city of cracking down on personal freedoms the spider though being a little information on what activities a bend and where and as artie's our first reports it's not even the police will be off to you if you break the rules. here in this park in london if your found drinking alcohol or growing up or or even feeding the pigeons you could inadvertently be committing a criminal or civil offense surprise will serve a lot of people the band in london map shows a...
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top and was picked to be very top but holder a group were to be marshmallows and they delivered all right now lanny a brewer is also a member of the residential mortgage backed securities working group that has just filed a civil suit against j.p. morgan for mortgage fraud why a civil suit and not a criminal one bill block well and why a suit only against an entity that hasn't existed for war for years and why a suit not against the individuals that actually perpetrated the fraud and who are multimillionaires in some cases billionaires and the answer is the answers are we don't do criminal cases of only financial institutions in the same pathetic lanny breuer speech and i have a column you know about this that perhaps you can put on your site. lanny breuer said tried to cite their great success against the bank fraud and he said hey we brought an action against a criminal mastermind mr for oculus well that's hilarious this is the. only c.e.o. of a significant lender came from a mortgage bank not anything remotely like wall street and the new book by barofsky who was the special inspector
top and was picked to be very top but holder a group were to be marshmallows and they delivered all right now lanny a brewer is also a member of the residential mortgage backed securities working group that has just filed a civil suit against j.p. morgan for mortgage fraud why a civil suit and not a criminal one bill block well and why a suit only against an entity that hasn't existed for war for years and why a suit not against the individuals that actually perpetrated the fraud and who are...
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and so on is if this does descend into a regional conflict they home walk away they'll next door all right gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that show break we'll continue our discussion on syria's civil war stay with. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew. i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. download the official publication. choose your language stream quality and enjoy. your favorite. t.v. is not required to watch on t.v. all you need is your mobile device to watch r.t. in any time. want to. welcome back across that i hear a lot of to mind you were talking about how the syrian conflict is spilling over into the region. and. ok i did go back to friday in london you know i find it really quite curious if not hypocritical that a lot of western media criticizes syria for violating turkey's territorial sovereignty but it's serious territory and sovereign is being violated all the time but no one likes to ta
and so on is if this does descend into a regional conflict they home walk away they'll next door all right gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that show break we'll continue our discussion on syria's civil war stay with. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew. i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. download the...
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rights groups have accused the city of cracking down on personal freedoms despite there being a little information on what. activities are banned and where and as are you sarah furthur reporters not even the police who be chasing you down if you break the rules here in this park in london if your drinking alcohol or growing up all or even feeding the pigeons in a person may be committing a criminal or civil at the prize pool so are a lot of people the band in london sees a whopping four hundred thirty five bishan zines aimed at tackling and she say she behavior the might have been a good policy idea in theory has local people say and it up a very bad policy in practice meaning hardline crackdowns on the soft this of misdemeanors disconcertingly many bars in london have now hired private contractors to carry out the enforcement of these fines phil morris knows all about them after his local council hired its full services he received an eighty pound penalty for jumping a cigarette butt and that he maintains he didn't know it was illegal he refused to pay two for weeks later game mode fo
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rights groups have accused the city of cracking down on personal freedoms despite there being little information on what activities are banned and exactly where as r.t. sarah furth reports it's not even the police who are becoming after you if you violate the rules. here in this park in london if your found drinking alcohol or growing up all or even feeding the pigeons you could inadvertently be committing a criminal or civil surprise will serve a lot of people we're joined now by. the creator of the google maps banned in london which sets out the people these zones in london where you could commit an offense the thankfully these activities that most people would have seen i don't see pretty looted can you tell us more about what sort of things people should be looking out exactly and i think all these activities are things people consider to be quite ordinary so handing out leaflets having a drink in the park with your friends walking your dog we realise that over the past few years you've seen the growth of zones where quite ordinary activities are prohibited the banned in london m
rights groups have accused the city of cracking down on personal freedoms despite there being little information on what activities are banned and exactly where as r.t. sarah furth reports it's not even the police who are becoming after you if you violate the rules. here in this park in london if your found drinking alcohol or growing up all or even feeding the pigeons you could inadvertently be committing a criminal or civil surprise will serve a lot of people we're joined now by. the creator...
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and so on is if this does descend into a regional conflict they home walk away they are next door all right gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that show break we'll continue our discussion on syria's civil war stay with r.t. . if you could. even in the on through the years. it's never too late to start. trying. like. championship. or become a. british stock. market. was really happening to the global economy. you. teach students to. welcome back across time here a little too mind you were talking about how the syrian conflict is spilling over into the region. which started. ok my to go back to find ian in london you know i find it really quite curious if not hypocritical that a lot of western media criticizes syria for violating turkey's territory and sovereignty but it's serious territory and sovereign is being violated all the time but no one likes to talk about that go ahead. i think it's quite normal in the middle east to have double and triple standards but that's something usual in the case of for example turkey turkey normally complained that the kurdistan workers
and so on is if this does descend into a regional conflict they home walk away they are next door all right gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that show break we'll continue our discussion on syria's civil war stay with r.t. . if you could. even in the on through the years. it's never too late to start. trying. like. championship. or become a. british stock. market. was really happening to the global economy. you. teach students to. welcome back across time here a little too...
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democratic system of governance i mean if they're afraid of saying they're only going to there's a civil war it's pretty hard to figure out what public opinion is mark you said you want to jump in and mention something about israel go right ahead well i think point that israel's been rather quiet on this is quite revealing because overall the sounds regime hasn't been a big problem for the israelis not since one thousand nine hundred two where as we've seen with egypt the change in egypt has brought big problems on the border and it's not impossible to imagine that from the point who this really is it only wrote a more muslim brotherhood influence regime little in the jihadi type regime in damascus could be a much bigger problem and could therefore be much more destabilizing element one question is here we're discussing two different examine what is in the interests of international peace and what is in the interests of notional majority in syria what they would like to have those who say we don't really know what syrians want because the violence means that basically the people doing th
democratic system of governance i mean if they're afraid of saying they're only going to there's a civil war it's pretty hard to figure out what public opinion is mark you said you want to jump in and mention something about israel go right ahead well i think point that israel's been rather quiet on this is quite revealing because overall the sounds regime hasn't been a big problem for the israelis not since one thousand nine hundred two where as we've seen with egypt the change in egypt has...
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and so on is if this does descend into a regional conflict they home walk away they'll next door all right gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that show break we'll continue our discussion on syria's civil war stay with hard to. see. if you can. sometimes you see a story and it seems so bleak you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm talking our bloggers a big picture. here . what's the matter you. never heard. of coming. right now. shells become income. a piece of art. talking about how the syrian conflict is spilling over into the region. to go back to fight in london you know i find it really quite curious if not hypocritical that a lot of western media criticizes syria for violating turkey's territorial sovereignty but it's serious territory is being violated all the time but no one likes to talk about that go ahead. i think it's quite normal in the middle east to have double and triple standards but that's something usual in the case of for
and so on is if this does descend into a regional conflict they home walk away they'll next door all right gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that show break we'll continue our discussion on syria's civil war stay with hard to. see. if you can. sometimes you see a story and it seems so bleak you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm talking our...
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rights groups have accused the city of cracking down on minor infractions despite there being little information on what activities are banned and where r.t. sarah for her reports it's not even the police will be after you if you break the rules. here in this park in london if you'll found drinking alcohol or running a ball or even feeding the pigeons you can't be committing a criminal oath of all of the prize pool so are lots of people the band in london matt sees a whopping full hundred thirty five thread bishan zones and tackling and she say she'll behavior that will might have been a good policy idea even theory has legal people say and is up a very bad policy in practice meaning hardline crackdowns on the soft this of misdemeanors disconcertingly many powers in london have now hired private contractors to carry out the influence of these fines. phil morris knows all about them after his local council hired actual services he received an eighty pound penalty for dropping a cigarette butt and that he maintains he didn't know it was illegal he refused to pay two fruit floater. for.
rights groups have accused the city of cracking down on minor infractions despite there being little information on what activities are banned and where r.t. sarah for her reports it's not even the police will be after you if you break the rules. here in this park in london if you'll found drinking alcohol or running a ball or even feeding the pigeons you can't be committing a criminal oath of all of the prize pool so are lots of people the band in london matt sees a whopping full hundred...
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to communicate the basic civil rights of internet users so we need to put it all out on the table and make sure that the threat is real and that this isn't just a lot of political and economic posturing by special interests yeah you know hallway already in latin america in africa and some parts of europe i'm just wondering tim if you think there's going to be a point where people in the u.s. say hey you know if it's better and faster and more efficient why can't we have a two well it's interesting to note that most computer equipment most telecommunications equipment is in fact made in china it may have a name like cisco on it just because huawei is a chinese company making a lot of the same footman. it raises these sorts of concerns but increasingly china is a player in the technology space and their ability to create cheap manufactured products should pose a threat to business interests of receive business not so much a national security threat so that that does come into play in this issue yes so interesting it was noted sixty on sixty minutes last night this used to be a field dom
to communicate the basic civil rights of internet users so we need to put it all out on the table and make sure that the threat is real and that this isn't just a lot of political and economic posturing by special interests yeah you know hallway already in latin america in africa and some parts of europe i'm just wondering tim if you think there's going to be a point where people in the u.s. say hey you know if it's better and faster and more efficient why can't we have a two well it's...
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civil rights finds a new way to figure out if you. before. by asking questions about human rights. or you are. joining. with a course in a bad romance. used to be migrant workers from ukraine with one in ten citizens heading west in search of a better life but as the european economy stumbles from crisis to crisis many ukrainians are returning home. with them. reports on the turning of the tide. and goes to villages with empty houses and few people on the street a common sight for western ukraine and it's not the result of any disaster. almost every family in the west of ukraine has a member working abroad ever since the collapse of the u.s.s.r. ukraine has been one of the main suppliers of cheap labor force into the european union as it stands over four million ukrainians are currently working in europe that's every tenth citizen of the country but this is changing yuri worked in spain for almost a decade before escaping the financial crisis and resettling back home at times he indulges in some gastronomically. and make spanish style salami at home but yuri says there is no going
civil rights finds a new way to figure out if you. before. by asking questions about human rights. or you are. joining. with a course in a bad romance. used to be migrant workers from ukraine with one in ten citizens heading west in search of a better life but as the european economy stumbles from crisis to crisis many ukrainians are returning home. with them. reports on the turning of the tide. and goes to villages with empty houses and few people on the street a common sight for western...
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a swedish civil rights group finds a new way to figure out if your machine before letting you enter websites by asking questions on human rights. the online for you a famous visit of a. door an embassy. maybe join tim for dinner but with a quarter in a bad romance perhaps find out more about the five hour meeting on our website. europe used to be a mecca for migrant workers from ukraine one in ten citizens heading west in search of a better life but as the european economy stumbles from crisis to crisis many ukrainians are returning home bringing their savings and new skills back with. reports on the turning of the tide. and goes to villages with empty houses and few people on the street a common sight for western ukraine and it's not the result of any disaster. almost every family in the west of ukraine has a member working abroad ever since the collapse of the u.s.s.r. ukraine has been one of the main suppliers of cheap labor force into the european union as it stands over four million ukrainians are currently working in europe that's every tenth citizen of the country but this is changing
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right over to our g dot com right now clamping down on us that a swedish civil rights group finds a new way to figure out if you're a man or machine called letting you enter a website asking questions on human rights also online. of a visit to the jail in a song and at the ecuadorian embassy as pop superstar lady gaga joins inflicted on whether caught in a bad romance by not one about the five i'll need to get out to use the web site. white house presidential hopeful mitt romney named russia as america's number one geopolitical foe although twenty years ago you was happy to make a buck from the bad habits of his top enemy nation as i. can explains. today is mitt romney views russia as america's number one geopolitical foe we don't know what use mr romney had on russia twenty years ago but we do know that back then he did his best to get russia to smoke more so some twenty years ago he's a boston based consulting firm bain capital was helping tobacco titans to move forcefully into the new russian market the soviet union just collapsed russia was up for grabs according to the person who w
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crossing to bring revolutionary trail son to the gulf states that's right ahead. in the. four way from civilization in history all one helicopter treat from the nearest village. yes they still one family have been living here for a long time in tents made of rain dius canes. so. lodging runs you need to signal and then it's they also grew up in the tunes but left it at the age of six and never returned they now live in the seating in apartment building but still ruined their regions. was planted here as a dancing teacher. was. next to his den says he tells the stories about his motherland. laws in europe to now has a one thousand strong reindeer had when the enemy only saw the lichen and marks around who it is gather that turns and move to another pasha they travel hundreds of kilometers in winter women and children for them. but the two families have less of a chance to come across each other they belong to different worlds even though there's sometimes a similar. even in the autumn of the years. it's never too late to start over. try extreme paragliding. when a bar or a
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now clamping down on us back sweet is a civil rights group of finds a new way to figure out if you're a man and machine before letting you answer websites by asking questions on human life also online. a famous visitor for joining us on just the ecuadorian embassy that pop superstar lady gaga joins him for the demo. board in a bad romance find out more about the five hour meeting at our news website. their international criminal court has started a two day public hearing to decide whether juan the gadhafi son should be tried in libya or the hague saif al islam gadhafi is accused of trying to violently wash last year's uprising in libya wants to prosecute him on home soil by saif al islam the i.c.c. lawyer is says he would not receive a fair trial they are europe europe used to be a mac up for migrant workers from ukraine to with one in ten citizens are heading west in search of a better life but as a european economy stumbles from crisis to crisis many ukrainians are returning home bringing their savings and new skills back with them artes alessio a chef ski reports on the turning of
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depends what the was about the what system if you're talking about second world will russians kotak right patrols what was at stake was the whole future of european civilization today is was obviously the issues are quite potent in some cases there are divided opinions about you know whether or not the war is worth is worth the candle of what's at stake and so on but are the issues maybe blurred because for example. other experts we spoke to there saying that war on terror is misleading because it doesn't really define the enemy you don't really know what you're fighting for do you think that might be the problem with the war on terror is is a. concept i think the problem is more the. when the war on top terror has taken the fall with actual words such as one's. seen in iraq and afghanistan. there's been a confusions about what help jets objects of those rules you know initially the object is supposedly. to security objects of various kinds you know but then they get confused with various political and ideological projects of products to transform the societies in the american or in the w
depends what the was about the what system if you're talking about second world will russians kotak right patrols what was at stake was the whole future of european civilization today is was obviously the issues are quite potent in some cases there are divided opinions about you know whether or not the war is worth is worth the candle of what's at stake and so on but are the issues maybe blurred because for example. other experts we spoke to there saying that war on terror is misleading because...
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late eighteenth fifty's early sixty's and we called it the civil war ultimately i mean that led us right to the civil war so i think those are very very very different things very in delaware county pennsylvania a very welcome to the program thanks for calling in thank you thank. tom my comment is that bank you are far is that what you got might call it and mitt romney for the blue is not going to we if you read the title not going to talk is going to start and weird to talk of blue when it wouldn't start if you bombard. you don't you know i kissed on going to long rush on don't try not to talk about i'm going to be stalked i don't know what you're going to what you think well you're right i think that there is a possibility of a world war one scenario and very i appreciate your calling in making that point in world war one when archduke ferdinand was assassinated nobody could you know nobody imagined that the world would be plunged into war as a result of that but but you know the country a had a treaty with country b. that said if they were attacked and they were attacked and it just k
late eighteenth fifty's early sixty's and we called it the civil war ultimately i mean that led us right to the civil war so i think those are very very very different things very in delaware county pennsylvania a very welcome to the program thanks for calling in thank you thank. tom my comment is that bank you are far is that what you got might call it and mitt romney for the blue is not going to we if you read the title not going to talk is going to start and weird to talk of blue when it...
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he lives here there's a study of the man like the maintenance of this building has remained a taboo right up until the present day or we still receive hate mail saying that he hanged a lot of people and was famous for severe punishment it's all true but it was a time of civil war both sides who monstrously cruel it is sadly the theme of cruelty which links so much of history to the rest of russia's particularly of exile where they were an apple or a criminal. by horse. by tractor. by car for the road ends. as a carpenter. as a stove setter. as a farmer. as an assistant. as a friend. as a relative delivering post and delivering. wealthy british style stock. markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with max concert for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into kinds a report on our feet. under. to teach. the headlines on the. protests and clashes reports of a. president and police presence. the warm welcome from greeks who see her as a. mass evacuations in central russia. military. officials say there are no casualties. obama's republi
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union and the center for constitutional rights. bring lawsuits against the government and then there is going to grudging coverage in the corporate media of these contrary adversarial positions but as long as the corporate media are conveying primarily official government positions there's as i say this false sense of consensus around a program that in most of the world. makes people hate americans absolutely and just to wrap it up i wanted to quote you because we're almost out of time but you said the anniversary of and or a walk is death underscores too in a related press problems internationally drones intensifier enemies resolve because drones no less than suicide bombers and roadside devices that americans have come to dread are instruments of terror and lawless death domestically drone strikes against u.s. citizens on foreign soil usurped even the pretense of legal due process in this country couldn't have said it better myself andy thank you so much for coming on and breaking it down think seven. if you like what you see so
union and the center for constitutional rights. bring lawsuits against the government and then there is going to grudging coverage in the corporate media of these contrary adversarial positions but as long as the corporate media are conveying primarily official government positions there's as i say this false sense of consensus around a program that in most of the world. makes people hate americans absolutely and just to wrap it up i wanted to quote you because we're almost out of time but you...
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liberties demanding their voting rights and things like that but if you look what happened in the arab spring jamal i mean a lot of people say if you look at egypt if you look at tunisia that was based on people who are hungry people who could not you know sell their first and that's temples in the street and that did lead to the toppling of a government well look you may get a situation in iran where you have people who attempts to topple the government whether it's from the outside this group that has been delisted or you have this instability that's created but i would just say two things one your audience have been through a revolution iranians don't like this regime but they also understand the instability that comes from toppling a regime and then the second thing is that if you actually i mean if this strategy actually worked out which i actually don't think that people want this strategy work out i think they want it to fail so that we can move to a war option but were this to actually pan out where there was some sort of instability that toppled the iranian government this is
liberties demanding their voting rights and things like that but if you look what happened in the arab spring jamal i mean a lot of people say if you look at egypt if you look at tunisia that was based on people who are hungry people who could not you know sell their first and that's temples in the street and that did lead to the toppling of a government well look you may get a situation in iran where you have people who attempts to topple the government whether it's from the outside this group...
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like the maintenance of this building has remained a taboo right up until the present day or we still receive hate mail saying that he hanged a lot of people and was famous for severe punishment it's all true but it was a time of civil war both sides were monstrously cruel it is sadly the theme of cruelty which links so much of history to the rest of russia's particularly of exile where they were not a criminal. wealthy british style stock. market why not come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with max cause or for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to kaiser report on our. morning news today violence is once again flared up the feeling these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. china operations are today. this is the welcome back with europe firmly in the financial doldrums poverty and homelessness are issues that grow larger by the day but for some it is all a business opportunity with new figures showing incidents of slavery and human trafficking nearly doubling in the u.k. alone laura smith now
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libya right now is this amateur government it's an artificial. creation of the west in the post gadhafi regime change plan so this gives you an indication of how they're governing in this country and certainly that there is no stability in libya compared to before the nato bombing and destruction of their country my party as you say it's a very much a government of the moment i said a moment ago and many would agree with you on that i know that the residents of the besieged bani walid town are appealing to the united nations for help good move. well. i don't think they're going to get much help from the u.n. saying that the united nations is the co architect of this post could off the libya there are half responsible for this sort of the fraud that was imposed by the u.n. resolution one nine hundred seventy three which was. starting with a no fly zone which turned into a bombing zone in a free for all for nato countries but it doesn't surprise me that the u.n. will be ineffectual because i can't see one instance over the whole globe over the whol
libya right now is this amateur government it's an artificial. creation of the west in the post gadhafi regime change plan so this gives you an indication of how they're governing in this country and certainly that there is no stability in libya compared to before the nato bombing and destruction of their country my party as you say it's a very much a government of the moment i said a moment ago and many would agree with you on that i know that the residents of the besieged bani walid town are...